Big Y 700 DNA test results yield new haplogroup branches and “Time Trees” for C-P39 Y DNA haplogroup and Germain Doucet b. 1641 descendants ... by Marie Rundquist with Deadra Doucet Bourke, Contributor February 22, 2023 Introduction
The discovery of the C-P39 Native Y chromosome DNA signature for genetic male descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641, in 2008, had great significance for genealogists because the Native Y DNA signature attained for this line (1.) disproved a European ancestry for Germain Doucet b. 1641, (2.) disproved a father-son relationship between Germain Doucet b. 1641 and Germain Doucet Sr. of France and (3.) disproved that Pierre Doucet (b. ca 1621) and Germain Doucet (b. 1641) were blood brothers having descended from the same father. Through exhaustive Y Chromosome DNA testing of numerous male, paternal line Doucet / Doucete descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641, who was from Port Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada, our Acadian-Amerindian and C-P39 Y DNA projects have uncovered, validated, and then verified a Native American Y Chromosome DNA haplogroup signature (originally referred to as haplogroup C3b and now referred to as haplogroup C-P39) for his descendants through sons Charles, Claude and Laurent. In 2019, the C-Z30754 single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP), or genetic marker, a subclade of the C-P39 Y DNA haplogroup, was identified as unique to genetic male, patrilineal (father to father) descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 through advanced Big Y 700 DNA testing. Y chromosome DNA is inherited through patrilineal line of descent and is passed, from one generation to the next, virtually unchanged, from father to father. Y chromosome DNA tests are separate test from mitochondrial and autosomal DNA tests and are for genetic males only. The C-Z30754 marker also identified a new subclade of the C-P39 Y DNA haplogroup to which male descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 belong. Genetic male descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 who have had advanced Big Y 700 DNA test show a positive result for this marker (C-Z30754+) and the C-P39 marker (C-P39+) in Big Y 700 DNA test results. Since the original identification of the C-Z30754 subclade as unique to the Germain Doucet b. 1641 surname lineage, new and unexpected branches, or subclades, of the C-Z30754 haplogroup have emerged among the Big Y 700 DNA test results of genetic male descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641. Further study of these new branches, and the SNPs (or genetic markers) that identify them, reveal that each new branch aligns, one-for-one, with a known surname lineage through a specific patrilineal line – traced from father to father - within the Germain Doucet b. 1641 family tree. The purpose of this update is to show how all of this works – and introduce some fascinating new Big Y 700 DNA tools and capabilities we may all use for our own genetic genealogy research at the same time! Note: Click here to read the rest of the report -- and find out about some surprising new discoveries about Doucet DNA we came upon in our research! Université Sainte-Anne Centre acadien is a truly excellent genealogy / family history resource for those researching Acadian roots in Nova Scotia, Canada. So glad to see it's back! Pointe-de-l'Église (N.-É.), December 21, 2022. "Matthias Duc, new director of the Center acadien." (Note: To enable auto-translation from French to English, please copy paste the link to the article above into your Chrome browser and use the translate to English button provided.)
From the news release: "Université Sainte-Anne is pleased to announce that Matthias Duc, archivist, librarian and information science specialist, will assume the full-time role of director of the Center acadien as of January 1 , 2023. Mr. Duc holds two graduate degrees, a master's degree in communication sciences and a master's degree in information sciences, both from the University of Montreal." Link to: https://www.usainteanne.ca/index.php?option=com_acym&ctrl=archive&task=view&id=823 Past President of the Acadian Memorial, Marty Guidry, related some sad news about our late, Acadian cousin Paul Lewis LeBlanc whose last home was in Ascension Parish, Louisiana:
"Unfortunately, today I learned that Paul LeBlanc passed away on August 24, 2022. He had been in a full-care nursing home for over a year and died from complications of several health issues that he had during the past year." Paul Lewis LeBlanc, as many may recall, was keenly interested in the use of DNA to verify genealogical lines and, ever since I've known him (which was from about 2006 on), Paul was always happy to share his knowledge and research. Paul participated in and led a number of popular mail-lists and groups about genealogical subjects as well and I had the opportunity to meet him, face-to-face, when he attended one of my presentations in Louisiana. With Paul's permission, I had published an article about his surname line, which he had traced, and documented, from himself, to his father, and then to his father, and his father -- all the way back to Daniel LeBlanc of Acadia (b. ca 1626). He did this in conjunction with his Big Y DNA test results he had received in October of 2020. He was pleased to discover that he could prove his line genealogically and also through his Y DNA test results, which matched those of other men who shared his same patrilineal ancestor, Daniel LeBlanc, b. ca1626. Needless to say, I was very delighted (and somewhat relieved) to report that Paul LeBlanc's Y chromosome DNA matched with the Y chromosome DNA results, and the Y DNA haplogroup, established for other LeBlanc men who descended from Daniel LeBlanc. When you are dealing with a genealogist whose Y chromosome DNA is so tightly intertwined with his esteemed Acadian surname lineage, and so, his very soul, as was Paul's, waiting for a Y DNA test result to come in can be an anxious affair! Sometimes, we have a brief opportunity to hear a story and we have to take it down, and publish it, while it's there in front of us. This is precisely what happened with Paul. Paul gave me one shot to send his Y chromosome DNA sample off to Family Tree DNA for the Advanced Big Y 700 DNA test (done!) and then one more, very brief opportunity to publish some notes about his family history (and we did that too!). As we called for contributions from the Acadian genealogy community so that we could fund Paul's Big Y 700 DNA test, and later worked together to document his line, I felt like I was led by a guiding hand -- and Paul's insistent urging. Looking back, I believe Paul knew that time was of the essence. And so, we have the following article that resulted from these efforts (You are welcome to share the article as I had permission from Paul to do the same): https://dna-genealogy-history.com/travel-by-ancestry/travel-by-ancestry-to-the-big-y-dna-signature-r-ft55255-for-the-lineage-of-acadian-ancestor-daniel-leblanc-b-ca-1626 Since the article was published, we have gained over 2050 members in the Acadian Amerindian Ancestry DNA project (the image in the article is old), and we have extensive updates to the Y DNA "tree." While the work continues with more Big Y 700 DNA kits ordered for our project members just this week, the genealogy that comprises Paul LeBlanc's story, as written, remains constant, and this post is going to be one of the places where Paul Lewis LeBlanc is honored and remembered, and I do so tonight. May you rest in peace, Paul Lewis LeBlanc, b. 1946, d. 2022. From your cousin in Acadian Genealogy, --Marie Asse'lia Rundquist Brian Doucet of Nova Scotia Canada has participated in the C-P39 Haplogroup and the Acadian Amerindian Ancestry DNA Projects since 2011. Following Keith Doucet's earliest, confirmed Y DNA test results, in 2008, which first revealed a Native American haplogroup for descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 through son Laurent, (see Confirmed C3b Y DNA Test Results Test the Heritage of Cajun Cousin Keith Doucet), Brian, who traces his lineage to Germain Doucet b. 1641 through son Claude, was among the first of the Doucet men from Nova Scotia to participate in the Germain Doucet b. 1641 Y DNA study. The early days of Y DNA testing to prove the Native American lineage of Germain Doucet b. 1641 were interesting times, to say the least. In 2011, when Brian had his Y DNA test along with other Doucet men, genealogists were only just beginning to discover the benefits of Y DNA testing to research a surname line and few in the field knew much about it. In 2011, even fewer comprehended how it was possible that a hidden Native American lineage for Germain Doucet b. 1641 had been uncovered through Y DNA testing! After all, it was (at the time) "settled genealogy" that he descended from Germain Doucet, Sieur de La Verdure of France, right? Certain genealogists did, however, understand the implications of the then-controversial Y DNA findings for male descendants of the Germain Doucet b. 1641 line. One genealogist in particular, Paul Tufts, of Nova Scotia, who has an extensive background in the biological sciences, was instrumental in getting the word out about the Germain Doucet b. 1641 Y chromosome DNA study. During those early days of Y chromosome DNA testing to prove the Native American origins of this line, Paul would meet face-to-face with male descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 (who were, after all, friends and neighbors!) and he told them about the project, answered their questions, and convinced them to have the tests. Brian was among the first of the Doucet men in Nova Scotia to volunteer to have his Y DNA tested, and to share his results. Brian wondered if his Y DNA test results would show that he too belonged to what was then called the C3b haplogroup (now called C-P39), as did other Doucet men who traced their patrilines, from father-to-father, to Germain Doucet b. 1641. Brian's Y DNA test results, and his close, Y chromosome DNA matches with other Doucet men, who traced their lines to the same common ancestor, Germain Doucet b. 1641, proved that he did. Brian has since had additional testing that qualified his membership in the C-P39 Y DNA haplogroup, as have other men who trace their patrilines, from father-to-father, to Germain Doucet b. 1641. Fast-forward to the summer of 2022 when Brian, after having read about the latest advances within the "Doucet DNA" project, emailed DNA project manger, Marie Rundquist, and gave her permission to share his story and his genealogy (through Germain Doucet b. 1641's son Claude). In the same email, Brian also reflected upon his pivotal role in a 2012 White Paper that detailed project findings: Quoting from a White Paper Marie had written in 2012, "C3b Y Chromosome DNA Test Results Point to Native American Deep Ancestry, Relatedness, among United States and Canadian Study Participants," Brian shared in his correspondence, "I have to admit it was an odd (in a good way) feeling when I had read through the report and came upon my results being utilized: "Results of representative test kit 219075 (Doucet) were analyzed against thirteen others in the study. As illustrated in the MRCA % Probability Chart for kit 219075, when one Doucet descendant’s results are compared against thirteen other study participants, the highest probability for sharing a common ancestor at twelve generations -- a genealogically relevant timeframe - is greatest among Doucet surname descendants ..." Brian's remark highlights how one set of Y DNA test results (his), identified only by a kit number and the Doucet surname, were instrumental in (1.) establishing, by comparison with other Y DNA test results in the project, a First Nations / Native American lineage of male descendants of ancestor, Germain Doucet b. 1641, and (2.) helping to refute any possibility of a genetic, father-son relationship between Germain Doucet Sr., founder of Acadia, and Germain Doucet b. 1641 of Port Royal, Nova Scotia. By 2017, only after dozens of male, patriline descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 had added their matching Y chromosome DNA test results to the project, were the following outcomes firmly established for the Germain Doucet b. 1641 Y chromosome DNA study: The discovery of a Native signature for descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 by our projects (the first descendant of this line having tested with the Acadian-Amerindian DNA project in the Summer of 2008) had great significance for the descendants of Germain Doucet b. 1641 because the Native Y DNA signature attained for this line (1) disproved a European ancestry for Germain Doucet b. 1641, (2) disproved a father-son relationship between Germain Doucet b. 1641 and Germain Doucet Sr. of France and (3) disproved that Pierre Doucet (b. ca 1621) and Germain Doucet (b. 1641) were blood brothers having descended from the same father. Brian Doucet graciously shares his own Nova Scotia lineage to Germain Doucet b. 1641 through son Claude, tracing his line from father-to-father, beginning with himself. Brian provides the following names of each of his patriline ancestors (all Doucet men) and their spouses for each generation: Germain Doucet (b. 1641) + Marie Marguerite Landry Claude “dit Maitre Jean” Doucet + Marie Comeau Joseph Doucet + Anne Agnes Surette Michel Doucet + Marie Suzanne Mius David “le Grand” Doucet + Isabelle Mius Jean Robert Doucet + Marie Henriette Saulnier Alexandre “Killick” Doucet + Marie Jane Newman Alexandre “Sandé” Doucet + Catherine “Katie” Comeau Alfred “Fred” Doucet + Cecile Comeau Brian Louis Doucet |
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